Anti-abuse tools which rely on centralized, wholesale surveillance, particularly when such a mechanism is the primary revenue model of that centralized system, can only get more and more abusive to users over time.

That's the fundamental problem.

The federated social web, as it exists, points at a *portion* of the solution. But not enough. In many ways, it has borrowed centralized assumptions.

That's why I've been in research mode with @spritelyproject. I think we now have the answers.

But it's one thing to have the answers. It's another thing for people to understand them.

This requires two things: good explanations, and to be able to get people to experience the solutions themselves.

I've been working with Randy Farmer (who has been doing this stuff for a long time) on better explaining the ideas. I look forward to sharing what we've been working on.

In code, I have more these days prototyped, but not enough that sit in users' hands. Working on it...

@cwebber is the thing spritely uses similar to trustnet? cause I've heard a bit about that 🤔


@erin What @cwebber is working on involves Object Capabilities (OCAP) and Capabilities Transport Prococol (CapTP) which IMO are essential to make federated and distributed social networking scale to replace Facebook (and IMO eliminating Facebook is an important goal).

OCAP and CapTP are like "distributed ACLs" (gross oversimplification perhaps, but about permissions/access). Trustnet doesn't seem to address that--it is more about determining veracity of authors which is a different issue.

@msh @erin @cwebber Many in the object capability community would object to that description, because ocaps are an *alternative to* ACLs, with different properties.

But yeah, you're right in that it's about access control.

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